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to dig through the latest jobs number to make the case president obama has not pit pay dirt just yet. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month. and the unemployment rate has come down very slowly, but it's come down nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> still, one of romney's key metrics on the president's handling of the economy went up in smoke, when the nation's unemployment rate dipped below 8%. >> 8% unemployment for over how many, 43 months? >> we still have unemployment above 8%. >> he told us he would get us back to work and hold unemployment above 8%. >> unemployment month after month after monday. >> reporter: it's a political bar mitt romney has accused the president of failing to clear for months. >> we've had 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%. if i'm president, i will help create 12 million new jobs in this country, with rising incomes. >> reporter: but romney knows the president has fallen short of estimates set by the administratio
situation room. the obama and romney camps spar over new jobs number as the president tries to rebound from his weak performance in his first debate. >>> computer technology helps us get a sense of what the candidates might have been thinking and feeling on the stage. >>> and big bird gets a shout out in the presidential race. will he be an endangered species after the election? >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the "situation room." >>> exactly one month before election day, there's a new dynamic in the race for the white house. after mitt romney outperformed the president in the first debate. and now knew jobs numbers are likely to provide more fuel for their next debate. the unemployment rate unexpectedly fell to 7.8 in september down from 8.1 the previous month and the lowest since january 2009. a separate survey of employers shows businesses added 114,000 jobs last month. and let's bring in jessica yellen. what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working
to vote for obama, the number of people who do not pay federal income tax, and the number of people who receive some sort of federal benefit, that that is all the same 47%. i doubt we will hear that again. >> anybody want to disagree? >> probably not. i do not know if that -- it was for consumption by a very small public. those with big wallets. >> that gives you an important aspect of our fact checking. we focus on the big, national messages, but we know there is lots of micro-targeting going on that is using very precise media to hit very precise audiences. we are not seeing that. we try, we asked readers to submit ideas through facebook and e-mail and what ever. we get a tiny portion of that. i think the case in point, this mailing i got from the romney campaign, maybe that is not going to be a message we hear romney assert at the debate, but it is clearly won the campaign is continuing to make. talk to campaign people, they will tell you, hey, you do not know about the ads you did not see that are running in tiny markets in ohio and florida and what ever. i think there are plenty of
. >> his rival president obama who is in day number three of debate camp in nevada dropped by one of his own campaign headquarters. >> it was very nice, you know. although, basically, they are keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they are making me do my homework. >> despite the best efforts, the drum beat is building. it's getting louder and louder with great debate expectations on both sides of the aisle. >> i expect the tone to be a little bit less aggressive than people might be expecting. i expect the content to be pointed and sharp and specific. i think you can go into combat without having to raise the decibels too much. i expect the tone to be a little bit less aggressive than people might be expecting. i expect the content to be pointed and sharp and specific. i think you can go into combat without having to raise the decibels too much. >> joining me from the obama campaign headquarters in chicago is national press secretary for obama for america. we did have a sound bite from congresswoman debby wasserman schultz. if we get that cued up, let me know and we'll cut to it
number is so important to jobs, to various campaigns, isn't it smart to have obama donors in as economists in the department of labor statistics? >> and let me tell you, there's no law against giving money. these are not major-- you're making it out like somehow george soros is running the department. ridiculous, eric. >> and you attacked me on something about the-- >> the confidence has been going up for months, this is not something that's based on-- >> i think two statistics that do matter in here to people. whether or not they would pay attention to them. one is the participation rate. >> yes. >> you have that few people, the lowest it's been since 1962. >> let's look at why that is. because more people close to retirement age are deciding that they-- >> that's been debunked several times. >> they're unemployed and-- >> no, no, no, they're taking early retirement and deciding you know what? >> and the line that bob beckel tried to use and it actually does not pan out and the second one is that take home pay is not keeping up with inflation. and inflation is higher so t
hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. they can't stand the truth. things are getting better. joining me now is joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. and e.j. dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. joan, let me start with you. what's behind these conspiracy theories? >> they just don't want to accept the realities that the president has made things better, reverend al. i think you forgot one. rush, when hurricane ivan was -- rush accused president obama of messing with the weather or the weather service. i'm not sure which. they impute all of this power to him. it's dark power. it's evil power. because they can't deal with the fact that he had a plan, he implemented t
this morning. to 7.8 and employers added 114,000 jobs. the numbers come at a critical time for president obama as a tightening in the race as a result of barack obama's weak debate performance. here was president barack obama today. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. (cheers) >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> and here is governor romney's reaction to the same number. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. and if you just drop out of the work force, if you just give up and say i can't go back to work, i'm going to stay home and drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics, so looks like unemployment is getting better. but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force today, as on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> the president clearly sees today's numbers good news for his campaign,
national numbers out today on the presidential race. quinnipiac university has president obama leading mitt romney 49% to 45%. that lead is all about the gender gap. in the poll, the president leads romney by 18 points among women. while romney holds a 10-point advantage among men. peter brown is assistant director of the quinnipiac university polling center and joins us from washington, d.c. can you tell from the polling what specifically feeds into the gender gap? are women happier with president obama or is this just an anti-romney vote? >> historically, women are more likely to be democrat, men republican. women see a greater role for government overall. not a single here or there, but overall. they are less tax averse than men tend to be. men tend to be more tax averse. they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are
in the numbers too. steven, you were on hand for for obama today, what did they say? >> they took 12 hours to figure out what the spin was because it was not ready last night. they were late getting to the spin room last night in denver. they settled on a line which was mitt romney might have looked good and sounded good, but everything said was false. he was lying one after another after another. what was interesting on the conference calls, they didn't give much supporting evidence. it's one thing to make the claim, but another to support it in a way to convince the people you're listening to. president obama might be able to do that on the campaign trail talking to partisan democratic audiences, but not much on the conference call today suggesting he's ready to support that claim. gerri: all spin going on today. al gore had this to stay "obama arrived in denver 2 p.m. before the debate started, and romney did the debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet with a few hours to adjust -- >> i'm prepared for al gore at altitude for the presidential debate in 1996, and the issue is not
the swagger and overconfidence is gone and i would call it anxiety for them today. this is the way the obama campaign tried to react. number one, they put out the first tv ad calling mitt romney dishonest. david plouffe, the senior strategist for the campaign and, of course, inside the white house, used the word "dishonest" or not being honest nearly a dozen times when briefing reporters this afternoon. so they're trying to put the focus on mitt romney and saying hey, he gave a great performance, but wasn't exactly honest. we'll see. it was rally therapy out here though, brian. he did have 30,000 people show up in madison. >> chuck todd, peter alexander with the view from the trail, wrapping it up for us tonight. gentlemen, thanks. >>> we have two big and still developing stories tonight having to do with how we all get around. on the east coast and the west, beginning with new troubles for american airlines. and for that, we want to go to tom costello. in our d.c. bureau. tom? >> reporter: hi, brian. american airlines is tonight saying it is going to ground all 48 of the suspect 757s that h
? it will probably last until the next debate. >> numbers get to with lou dobbs going to help president obama. >> bill: what about the race deal? cookie stuff, we know where it comes from and who is generating it. we don't take it seriously. it is so far out there. these people, i guess they believe what they say marianne, it's offensive to everybody else, is it not? >> look, style does matter. make no mistake about it. what voters are looking for from the president the other night was someone who is going to fight back. >> bill: are you dodging my question about race, marianne? are you dodging it now? >> no. not at all. >> the guy said obama couldn't talk frankly because is he black, marianne, and you say, what? i say that's not true. >> fight back that's not true. powers, what do you say? >> it's insane. that's not true and insane. why do these people do it? i mean, if this injecting race into this. >> they are trying to make excuses for a very bad performance. >> the air was too thin al gore and he couldn't talk because is he black. >> desperation, really it is. >> bill: desperation too ki
lower unemployment number usher the president into a second term? we'll talk to the obama campaign's vice chair, jan schakowsky. >>> topping our political headlines, mitt romney is out with a new podcast this afternoon, in which he attacks president obama over his debate performance. >> president obama could not defend his record. he offered no new ideas for how to fix the economy. i welcome the chance to share my vision for renewed prosperity and opportunity and i think it compared quite favorably to president obama's policy for big, trickle-down government. >> this past hour, mitt romney's son, josh, met with reporters in the swing state of virginia. it's part of a day-long effort the campaign is calling super saturday, with volunteers going door to door in battleground states. president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these
. >>> we begin with news on the unemployment rate. down to the lowest number since president obama took office. his campaign says that proves the president's policies are working. republicans argue the numbers are down because people are just giving up. doug mcelway with details of the latest disagreement. doug? >> the controversy surrounding the release of the september unemployment numbers continues to it swirl after one of america's most respected ceos took to twin citieser to find up off this tweet. "unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't dewait so change numbers. peacing a torrent of criticism for the defeat. welch struck about the criticism of the number. >> who is participating. who is not working. who is trying to work but has dropped out. all of these things. it just raises the question i think there ought to be a good discussion aut how this number is calculated. >> most analysts are dismissing welch's criticism as utter early without evidence while at the same time pointing out that the jobs numbers largely reflect an obama econom an obat has th
that the unemployment rate for september was right there, 7.8%. the obama campaign out to that go number to show that the recovery is picking up steam, but republicans say the actual jobs picture is far bleaker because that number doesn't account for millions of americans who are underemployed or simply given up for work. it sounds like this political battle may have gotten the start from controversial tweet from jack welsh? >> he is one of most respected former ceos. within minutes. jobs report. he tweeted this. quote, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers. despite no evidence that the numbers were cooked, he refused to retract that statement. he did tell cnn he might have added a question mark if he were to do it again. republicans are using them as evidence of a stagnant economy. >> we want to return to full unemployment. what we have -- full employment. but we have seen 37 months in a row of private sector gains. it's far better than losing 100,000 a month as when george bush was in office. >> what is disappointing, the down tick on em
is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next thursday night. paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the debate. he's spending time with chris van hollen, that's his sparring partner. van hollen has worked with paul ryan, he's a democrat from maryland, who worked with ryan with and against on the hou
unemployed or given up hope of being employed. >> i heard people like barack obama say the numbers were cooked, were fixed. former ceo of g.e. >> jack welch. >> jack welch say they were fixed or something? >> he said definitely those guys from chicago they can't debate so they're cooking the books. >> bill: do you take that seriously? >> no. i do not take it seriously. i have to say jack welch gave us a good laugh because he he was serious. >> bill: welch believes these are bogus numbers? >> that's what he said. it's the kind of nonsense what's really book here. 50,000 they survey the establishment survey it's called services and government is about 150,000 there is a lot of volatility. people going around saying this hasn't happened in 30 years. >> bill: in your opinion though, there are more jobs being added pushed from full time into part time. they are younger, less educated. unskilled. lower paying. >> if you are working part time you come off the unemployment rolls, that goes into the unemployment rate. that's a legitimate thing to talk about this is important. 14.7% unemployment
with barack obama, number one. and that what mitt romney has to do is convince people that four years from now a mitt romney presidency will be better for their personal lives. they understand on the likability question of which the president beats mitt romney so handily, they're not about to convince all these people suddenly to turn around and say, oh, we like mitt romney more than we like president obama. what they're going to try and do is say you like him enough and he can do the job and he's better able to fix things. so he's not going to try and be bill clinton here, i feel your pain. but what he's going to try to do is say i'm focused on your concerns. >> can a debate like tonight's debate really change the direction of this campaign? >> i think it can accelerate or decrease momentum one way or another. and i went back and looked at 2004 for example when you had john kerry and george bush. in sort of late september bush was ahead of kerry by about seven points. after the first debate it was a two-point margin because john kerry did very well. then george w. bush came back and did bette
pointing out that the jobs numbers largely reflect an obama econom an obat has the economy still stuck in neutral. >> the policies that the president put in place actually made it worse. including the fact that obama care is causing small employers not to hire because of rising healthcare costs. >> former white house press secretary robert gibbs today also touched on the jack welch tweet. >> you wonder why institutions in this country are the perception of institutions in the country are failing because people go on tv and make stuff up. ask for the evidence and he said he had none. >> we continue to make progress. 31 consecutive months of private sector job growth. certainly we are not where we want to be. >> many analysts who combed through the unemployment data released attribute the decline to a big increase in part-time work. people looking for full-time jobs unable to find them and they are settling for part-time jobs. there were some 582,000 new part-time jobs created last month. the bureau of labor statistics categorizes the number as "part time for economic reasons." not exact
't debate so change numbers. chicago guys presumably meaning the obama campaign. we will talk to him about that. congressman alan west said this on his facebook page. in regard to today's jobs report, i agree with jack welch. chicago style politics is at work here. conservative commentator laura ingraham said obama's october surprise, thanks, hilda. that's labor secretary hilda solis, who is responsible for the bureau of labor statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of labor statistics, highly trained, highly skilled ph.d.s, economists, statisticia statisticians, folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades and it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say that somehow we are manipulating numbers. i find that very insulting. >> hilda solis. for the record, here's how the process works. the raw data comes in on wednesdays, the week before each monthly report. the bureau of labor statistics gets around -- calls around 60,000 households and ask
the number was fixed to make president obama look good. the fact remains, conservatives have been shoving these unemployment rate numbers to the president's face for the last three and a half years. now it's come back to bite them. they hate it. they can't stand it. it's success under obama. and if it works for them, well, it's the truth. if it works against them you know what it is? a conspiracy, a lie. you know what it is? it is pathetic. you want a real conspiracy? i'm going to give you a real conspiracy here tonight. an entire political party in washington, d.c. you know this. has spent nearly four years making sure no legislative action was taken on jobs. when president obama approached them with solutions to get people back to work, they rejected them immediately, said no. they even said in public, their number one goal was to make barack obama a one-term president. when they executed this strategy, what did they do? they damaged the country. do you call that economic patriotism? i don't. this is what a job growth has looked like over the past three years. now take a look at what ha
contentious in a highly charged political atmosphere. first the numbers, and then the controversy. the labor department says the unemployment rate fell to 7.8% in september, a drop of 0.3% from august. the current rate is the lowest level since president obama took office. >>> but timing, we all know, is everything. the report comes a month before the election and some obama administration critics are suggesting the books were cooked. jack welch the former ceo of general electric tweeted this. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, change numbers. he later came on "anderson 360" and said if he had that tweet to do over, again, he would have added one thing. >> so many politicians are saying these days, michele bachmann will say something that is factually not correct. not provable and say, look, i'm just asking the question. is it responsible to say i'm just asking the question, but these guys aren't doing anything, i'm just asking a question. >> i should have put a question mark at the end of that. >> so, you are kind of backing away from the chicago g
until the election day, and the obama campaign has just released a staggering fund raising number. george stephanopoulos is here to talk about who has more momentum heading into this final month before the election. >> 30 days to go, as you say, and look who is getting the last word on the presidential debate. he found himself in the cross fire, and last night, big bird hitting back. he went on "snl." he really is big when you see him next to a human being and he was, let's just, say diplomatic about the whole thing. we'll tell you what he said coming up. >>> but first ginger sow with more on that freeze warning in parts of the country. we're wearing long sleeves, ginger. >> i felt it this morning as did so many millions of americans across the nation. let's start with a look at just how cold it is this morning. it's not just freeze warnings, but it's freeze watches, frost advisories that cover the nearly two dozen states this morning. amarillo even, 37 degrees, wichita is 36. kansas city, right above the freezing mark. now, what happens is we look for today's highs, and that's wh
and department of labor measures unemployment, number one, and b, maybe you think barack obama's not doing a good job and mitt romney should be replacing him. but to honestly suggest that there's corruption, that the obama campaign may have had something to do with cooking these books, why do you need to do that at a time when u.s. trust for government and institutions is at an all-time low. that is not good for society. what does jack welch gain by introducing this? there are so many ceos who talk nonsense. what do you gain from this, jack? why don't you take this opportunity to take it back? >> i love you. i'm not talking nonsense, okay? >> i love you more, jack, but fix this. >> wait a minute. wait a minute before we have this lovefest. i told you that these numbers are implausible. we don't have a 5% gdp growth in this quarter. we don't have it, ali. we revised the second quarter down, i'm involved in 14 businesses, i've been looking at them over the last week. the third quarter is not strong. it's not strong, from restaurants -- >> okay. let me ask you this. let me ask you this, jack. i agre
, those we'll see state number two. the obama campaign will celebrate this new national number. here's the key question heading into the battleground states, in colorado where the race has gone up, nevada where it's gone up, essentially flat in new hampshire and north carolina, how does this new national number no question good for the president play out in those states? >> john, both candidates obviously reacting to the jobs report today. governor romney saying this isn't a real recovery. we need more job growth. that's what he says. the president says it's a reminder that the country has come very far so far and he's not going to be turning back. so who's right? >> again, it depends on your perspective. the job growth is not as robust as either candidate would like. you need essentially 150,000, some economists say close to 200,000 jobs a month to keep a flat line and begin to turn the rate down more. look at some of the other data. if you look here's job creation. remember, this is the end of the bush administration, early obama administration, the economy was bleeding jobs. 800,0
and this morning an eye-popping number. president obama announced he has raised nearly a billion dollars in campaign cash. meanwhile, mitt romney riding his post-debate momentum into a must-win state for him, florida, it's "your voice, your vote" and abc's david kerley is in orlando with 30 days to go. david, good morning to you, sir. >> reporter: good morning to you, dan. you know, mitt romney is really trying to build on that debate momentum, so he's spending another day here in florida where the campaign says that the race is tightening, and romney got one of his biggest crowds ever last night in a state he really has to win. [ cheers ] >> that was a florida welcome. thank you so much. >> reporter: one of mitt romney's biggest crowds ever, more than 6,000 supporters near orlando in a state he needs to win. >> we're going to overcome the challenges we have. i'm counting on florida to win this for me on november 6th. >> yes. >> reporter: the crowd energized about the candidate's chances after that first debate. >> when it came to jobs and the economy, he doesn't really have anything to
community calling those numbers completely fake, deliberately distorted to make president obama look good before the election. the obama administration firing back calling such charges ludicrous. what is the real story? joining me now, former white house chief economist and labor department commissioner keith hall, moody's chief economist, john lonski, and carried from call bomb capital management. welcome to you all. very curious. nearly a half percent move in the an employment rate on just 114,000 jobs growth in the month surprising to jack welch, former ceo of ge. here is what he said. >> well, and the last two months we have gone from 83-81. now we are going to 7.8% by changing the numbers assumptions. like. i don't know if -- what the right number is. i tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. gerri: gary, to you first. is the bls giving as ps? >> it is the bs. look. three months ago i said that even if we got newt we would be under 8% because the politics of it. we saw 30 days ago the fed announced a open ended printing of money
: both president obama and candidate mitt romney using today's jobs report to bolster their campaigns. the truth behind those numbers and a $5 gas, already happening in one state. could it happen in yours? welcome to "the willis report." ♪ hello, everybody. i'm gerri willis. do you believe the jobs numbers released today? a huge drop in unemployment rates to 7.8%. a look at that. nearly 1 million people entering the workforce in just one month. today, some of the business community calling those numbers completely fake, deliberately distorted to make president obama look good before the election. the obama administration firing back calling such charges ludicrous. what is the real story? joining me now, former white house chief economist and labor department commissioner keith hall, moody's chief economist, john lonski, and carried from call bomb capital management. welcome to you all. very curious. nearly a half percent move in the an employment rate on just 114,000 jobs growth in the month surprising to jack welch, former ceo of ge. here is what he said. >> well, and the last two
't know the numbers, but my suspicion is that that's a very impressive number by president obama, and while he was, in essence, his cash on hand began to dwindle starting in may had he spent all the money on tv, this is going to get way in the weeds, but it's very important. if you're obama or romney, the money that you have in your own campaign treasury is the money most easy to spend with the biggest impact, and you're guaranteed, if you're obama or romney in getting the lowest unit rate, the lowest cost for the a tv spot buying from a tv station. outside groups like american crossroads have to pay a premium. president obama spends a dollar, we have to spend more than a dollar to get the same weight of television. a lot more of romney's money is found in the wallet of the republican national committee, and smaller money is found in the democratic national committee. what's that mean? if you use money from the democratic or republican national committees, you have to use what are are called combo ads in which you not only mention obama, but also democrats, or not just romney, bu
up, see that unemployment number and be encouraged. going forward if i was president obama i would do something else entirely. >> um, um, and hum. >> cenk: when we come back i'm going in a different direction. already, later in the program serious story about milwaukee police and abuse that led to a detainee's death. >> i watched that tape one time, and i can't watch it ever again. it broke my heart so bad that they just didn't help him at all. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> the idea that he could criticize the president on the down grading, when he led the charge to block a resolution. outrageous. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right now, we had a debate, and one of the things that mitt romney did obviously was that he didn't tell the truth. so it's okay. now president obama was not on his a-game, but he'll come in and straigh
times as much this is the blowout? no. it is a close race. obama's problem he cannot get 50% the number on the election day is likely to be less than your final number because your detractors will vote against you. gerri: it is about the spin. thank you for coming. enjoy the debate. pundits and politicos debates of the long run but they cannot blasted the memorable moments. number 51992. vice presidential showdown with james stock dale. >> admiral stock dale? >> who am i? why am i here? [laughter] [applause] gerri: that moment lead to ridicule and the saturday night live skit he only decided to participate one week prior and did ask the moderator to repeat the question. number four. out course. >> i get something positive done on behalf of the people. that is the question not your philosophy your position but can you get things done? [laughter] i believe that i can. gerri: remember that moment? and he made in seem condescending with his citing. >> these of the elements of the national health insurance. governor reagan is such a proposal. there you go again. gerri: this became one of ron
, if we sort of change that debate narrative and obama won it and then these numbers come out, people already starting to talk about the race being over. i think it would be even more significant. so just really points up how big that debate performance of romney was to overcome all this news that's been working against him for a while now. jenna: that is interesting painting that other scenario if it didn't happen that way but it did. in the news cycle over next several days, does it wipe out the debate performance by the president because these new numbers look more positive than expected? >> doesn't wipe it out. romney would much rather have these 8.3 and rising and the 7.8% does talk, let him talk about you who the recovery's moving apace. the more significant thing, jenna, though is what the polls were saying before any of this. suddenly we were seeing 57% of americans starting to say that they thought the country was in recovery. only 43% thought it wasn't. there is a real feeling out there, for whatever reasons that the economy is recovering. this little piece of news here may
-- is obama debt. george bush is responsible for 5% of it. >> i don't buy those numbers at all. the debt was $1 trillion wh obama came into office. the noble prizewinner, the economist, estimates the cost of the iraq wars in the neighborhood of 5 or $6 trillion. by the time we pay veterans its >> all right, gary, let me switch topics for a little bit n. an introduce yesterday, mitt romney backtracked on his infamous 47% comment saying in this case, i said something that is just completely wrong. is that another etch a sketch moment for romney? >> it keeps the mitt romney weather vane question going. it would have been a better answer to have commit it come out the day the story came out than three weeks later. >> i can't wonder why romney's running from the 47%. everything he citizen true. 45, 47% of the people go one way, 45, 47% go the other way. we fight over the other 10%. it's certainly the case that obama has built out the victim economy, the dependency economy, the welfare economy. there are many, many people that obama has effectively created who conceptualize themselves in that
-- the point is that in boasting about the unemployment number the obama people are making too much out of one pops's number which everybody does but there's a fundamental truth that things are getting better. not as fast as they should by a long shot. maybe a quarter of the way back from the damage that was done by the financial crisis, but we are making our way back. >> when you look at both events, let me ask you to weigh in, how much did the race change this week? >> i think it changed -- i think romney helped himself but i think this is a clarifying event because now the republicans are enthusiastic about romney. while they're enthusiastic about ryan, the winner of this race will have real legitimacy. this is not going to be a thing where they say, well, he really didn't represent our caution. now that -- if the president wins re-election, then you're going to see sort of policies along the clinton line when it comes to tax on top earners. you're going to see the health care bill stay in place. you'll see regulation of wall street stay in place and see these things happen. if by the same
know on our website, cnn.com/opinion, you posed these foreign policy questions to barack obama. number one, can you tell us specifically what the afghan troop surge accomplished? and this, can you guarantee that iran will not have acquired a nuclear weapon by the time you finish a second term in office? david frum, foreign policy seems to be one of the president's strengths, at least that is what some of these polls indicate. of the two questions we just showed, some of the questions you posed here in this ten questions for obama to answer piece, which is likely to be toughest for the president to answer and why? >> all right, well, i put foreign policy questions at the top, that's so core to a president's responsibilities, domestic, occupy the second half of the list. the tougher question would be the afghanistan question. this is the president's probably single largest scale foreign policy decision, the bin laden raid, a tough call and he's made many other decisions both public and secret. but he -- he campaigns strongly in 2008 oninding down the iraq war and escalating up the afghan
to focus on. number 1, obama agreed there was no difference between them on social security. and obama agreed that neither of their medicare plans would hurt existing elderly or anyone about to retire. they disagreed on the $716 million that obama caught current retiree, but the medi-scare and the social security scare tactic can't be used because obama stipulated that that won't be a problem. i think by failing to raise the 45%, the cayman islands and the tax return and the bain capital, obama was basically conceding that those are not legitimate shots. how can you spend $200 million advertising to push these facts and then when you confront the guy, you don't mention them? >> greta: you see -- i actually thought that that was smart because he looks like he is above this. that he is more presidential. and he leaves the dirty work to somebody else and doesn't have fingerprints on it, if they are done in campaign ads and certainly, pac ads, rather than his own campaign. >> that's the point, greta. it's the president says this is not worth dignifying and making it an issue, this is not w
of speculation on line on social media this morning, that the obama administration could be fudging the numbers. we took that question right to the secretary of labor this morning. she tells us it's ludicrous to say the numbers could be manipulated. >>> secret service has new policies in place after one of the most embarrassing scandals in the history. it would ban excessive drinking and the share of work related information on sites including facebook. this comes five months after more than a dozen employees of the secret service were accused of drunken partying with prostitutes. >>> american activists are planning to stage a protest against u.s. drone strikes, member of the antiwar group code papping planning to hold a rally in islamabad. they are saying the drone attacks killed innocent people, there are conflicting reports about drone casualties. civilian deaths or injuries are rare but others disagree with that. >>> greece's prime minister says his country can only survive until the end of next month. right now officials from the european commission, international monetary fund and europea
now, it's his attitude towards obama, and i think he's shocked that the number looks so good. he doesn't want it to look that good. this number is going to help the president. >> absolutely. so it's pure political. you shouldn't be then -- you're right, for an experienced business guy who people listen to and look to, to cast that kind of a ridiculous aspersion is actually quite damaging and shouldn't be done. let's talk about the number. >> how good is this news today? >> how good is it, did you say? >> yes. >> it's good news. it's not over the moon good news, but it's good news. i think you have to look at the payroll survey. there i think you see an acceleration of job growth, and, by the way, welch has a point. you should never take one monthly number. if there's a germ of something in there, you should never take one monthly number. you should average. if you look at the past three months, payrolls have been growing about 150,000 per month compared to about 67,000 per month in the prior three months. so that's a bit of an acceleration. a little momentum on the unemployment rate. >
. as you might expect, president obama and governor romney saw these numbers quite differently and we have two reports tonight. first, nancy cordes covering the president and she's in cleveland. nancy? ncy?eporter: scott, you could practically see the relief on the president's face today and not just because this news helped to change the subject from his shaky debate performance. negh unemployment has been an albatross around his neck the past four years. today he mentioned the drop not once but twice starting in virginia. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. ( cheers and applause ) more americans entered the work errce, more people are getting jobs. >> reporter: around steady rain in cleveland where president esida shared a coat with the supporter who introduced him, he made it clear to a crowd of 9,000 that he understands there's still a long way to go. >> there are too many friends and neighbors who are still looking for work. any many families who are still struggling to pay the bills. and they were struggling even
given up hope of being employed. >> viheard people who don't like barack obama today, say the numbers are cooked, fixed. doesn't what's his name, the former ceo of g.e. -- >> jack welch! he said, the guys from chicago can't debate so they are cooking the books. >> do you take that seriously? >> no. but he gave us a good laugh because apparently, he was serious. >> he believes -- >> i think -- >> he believes that they are bogus numbers. >> it's when he said. it's the kind of nonsense eye mean, the last thing -- anyone should be looking at in these numbers is somebody cooking the books. what is really at work here, there are two survey, one of 50,000, they survey the businesses and they survey the households. the establishment survey as it's called of businesses and government is about 150,000. and the survey of households is about 50,000. so there is a lots of volatility. there are people saying, this hasn't happened in 30 years -- nonsense. e >> in your opinion, there are more jobs being added. but most of these jobs are part-time jobs itch they are part-timions, people who have bee
: well as you might expect, president obama and mitt romney saw today's job numbers much differently. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. >> so it looks like unemployment is getting better, but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force, the day that the president got elected while the unemployment rate would be around 11%. and that's the real reality of what's happening on out there. >> 40% of the unemployed have been out of work six months or more. that number did not drop last month. economists say we need to add 200,000 jobs or more every month to make a dent in the unemployment rate. linda yee, cbs5. >>> in one bay area county, why some cities are being forced to import other people's garbage. >>> a california man dies from a disease we almost never see here in america. how a sick bat triggered an international health scare. >>> a new tool to find the cheapest airline tickets. how strangers are competing against each othe
't believe there was a expiration. take your best shot. it's not a number that barack obama can really crow about. identify been saying for a very long time, people ignore the unemployment rate because it moves around in an unpredictable way. jobs added and jobs loss number is the one you can get your teeth into. not enough for barack obama to crow about. not that much for mitt romney to sink his teeth into. >> reporter: barack obama will crow about this number and already has. you know, we did see a big gain in this household survey. here's one of the problems with the number that came out. the big gain in jobs, ali, about 600,000 of those jobs were an increase in part time work. now, look, working part time is better than not having a job at all no, question about it. but try feeding your family, try paying your medical bills, try paying for all your other expenses like your mortgage with a 20 to 25 hour job. so, look. i think the american people still believe as i do, it's still a pretty miserable labor market out there. it's getting a little better but not a whole lot. >> diane swank is
to sink his teeth into. >> reporter: barack obama will crow about this number and already has. you know, we did see a big gain in this household survey. here's one of the problems with the number that came out. the big gain in jobs, ali, about 600,000 of those jobs were an increase in part time work. now, look, working part time is better than not having a job at all no, question about it. but try feeding your family, try paying your medical bills, try paying for all your other expenses like your mortgage with a 20 to 25 hour job. so, look. i think the american people still believe as i do, it's still a pretty miserable labor market out there. it's getting a little better but not a whole lot. >> diane swank is a chief economist. she joins us from chicago. diane let's talk about it. 7.8% unemployment rate. an improvement but we're not out of the wood yet. let's dealing with the real numbers. 1.1 million people unemployed in september. 40% of them have been unemployed for six months or more. as stephen just alluded to many jobs created are not of the quality you would like to see. what's
't know what he was doing out there. he was in during the debate. >> president obama could have new worries today when thejobs numbers are released. economists predict it could go to 8.2%. >> an estimated 67.2 million people watched the debate between the president and mitt romney. that would be the largest television audience for presidential debates since 1992. president obama and mitt romney are set for two more debates. stay with abc 7 for continuing coverage of the presidential race. we will also have the latest information online at wjla.com. >> one of the men charged with killing an arlington health club worker scheduled to be sentenced today. roger clark pleaded guilty to first-degree murder in january. he was charged with stabbing carl diener to death as he worked to work in december 2009. clark's cousin is also charged in the murder and is scheduled to go on trial later this marked. a former parking charged with scam and parking fees the smithsonian museum in chantilly is expected to plead guilty today. he and two other people stole at least $400,000 from the facility. it
the drum and say this is there a guy. but i think you will see that after tomorrow, obama's numbers will probably get even stronger. it's a shame they did this to us. if you had a strong candidates like ron paul, obama would not be able to stand on that stage. host: this on twitter -- we are getting comments coming to us from facebook -- ken edgett in dallas, texas, independent. -- kenneth in dallas. caller: i am strictly an independent thinker. i am going to watch the debate probably when i get off work. my thought is this, when is this country going to wake up and stop losing american lives and the whole middle east is ridiculous. it is in worse shape than it was 10 years ago. $3 trillion in debt and each side points to the other guy. the democrats were in control for four years, two under bush and two under obama, yet it was all bush's fault and nobody takes responsibility. that's the problem. the voters need to take responsibility and get rid of every one of the incumbents, it's maybe not in this election, but if they don't get this country straightened out and get the economy s
president obama took office in january of 2009. the number dropped because more people found part-time work. we expected the unemployment rate to inch up slightly. the unemployment number is worth watching closely, one more monthly report that comes november 2nd, four days before the presidential election. trading stocks gain yesterday weekly jobs report showing unemployment claims climbed by less than expected. how would you like a stwrob with your latte? starbucks hiring 20,000 over the next fife years as it opens 1,000 new stores. those -- knows currently working at starbucks, --. >>> before you pour another cup of coffee this morning, new study links too much coffee to a loss of eyesight. researchers phone people who drank a lot of coffee had a higher risk of developing a type of glaucoma. people who drank three or more cups of caffeinated coffee, per day were up to 66% more likely to develop the eye disease which can lead to blindness. researchers think it may be due in part that calf between increases fluid -- that caffeine increases fluid pressure in the eyes. >>> researchers tracked
's a conspiracy. i think the top line number is clearly something that president obama is going to tout. if you look underneath those top line numbers, we see that the rate of job growth is decelerating, not accelerating. that's a bad trend. you have a lot of people who are now counted as employed who actually took part-time jobs when they were looking for full-time jobs. and we continue to see people taking themselves out of the labor market. they're just giving up. we see manufacturing jobs now declining. so there's a lot of tough stuff underneath the headline number, but politically speaking, president obama is going to trump at the headline number, and mitt romney will try and talk about the fundamentals, and i think the facts are on governor romney's side, actually. >> so from one conspiracy to soot. we want you to listen to this. sticking with the economy and jobs, listen to what governor martin o'mally had to say about why things are not moving in the right direction. >> they want to slow the economy before the election. if you don't believe that, then i have a bridge i want to sell you
the numbers, savannah is, president obama's numbers sort of locked in place at 49. the fluidity is in mitt romney's number. >> chuck todd in denver this mornings thank you. >>> bill o'reilly is the host of "the o'riley factor" and author of the new book "killing camelot," in stores today. >> nice to see you. >> i've heard you say on your show polls don't really matter until after the debates which i take it to mean you do think these debates are incredibly important. >> from the very beginning i've said that because people don't really know who mitt romney is. the pressure is on the governor. he has to come across os a regular guy which i'm not sure he can do. has to kind of drop the facade of being a politician, all right? the president really basically just has to maintain his cool demeanor. they are both not going to say anything startling. you've heard it all before, if you pay attention, but it's the way that romney presents himself. it's like ronald reagan against jimmy carter. reagan was behind when he started to debate carter, but he made carter almost look small. reagan was larger
'll hear the latest number of the obama administration to step down in yet another government spending scandal. bill: a mid-air scare of the wrong kind. what if your seat comes loose? listen. >> we want the airline to succeed. the bottom line is that management isn't make the right decisions the airline can't succeed. bill: what is he saying? could this have something to do with a union dispute? bill: a peanut butter recall expanding. whole foods, target and stop and shop pulling several grand from their shelves after salmonella-related illnesses were linked to peanut butter sold at trader joe's. martha: a top obama appointee is out of a job after a report blasting his agency's $6 million conference tab. including this spoof of a hollywood classic. >> one of the worst mistakes you can make in carrying out your mission is getting the idea in your head that stability is a virtue. stability is not a virtue it's a trap. it means you are holding your own. it means you are standing still. martha: acting ratings aside. doug mcelway joins us from washington. we are hearing that film which was
he's an angry rich man. >> bob: come up with the numbers you talk about. obama has to defend numbers but so does romney. >> eric: what number does he have to defend? >> bob: how he will cut taxes and balance the budget? >> dana: he has a good answer. obama has a tougher time explaining how in 2008, he ran on one thing regarding taxes. in 2010 he changed his mind to protect his tail. then now his whole plan is against what he said in 2010, is worst thing to do for the country. >> bob: that debate has been out there and argued over and over for four years. the question is how romney says he will, not going to lose money cutting taxes because he is going to take away loopholes. he refuses to answer one question about the loophole. obama will push him. he should. >> greg: mitt has to say why did you cancel pipeline with 8.2% unemployment? >> bob: i'll answer if that if you answer which loopholes you will cut? >> dana: there you go again. >> bob: simple question, what loopholes are you going to cut on wealthy people? coming up, president obama uses heavy, heavy hollywood hitters in a new
's just over half of latinos who are eligible to vote. these numbers are key for both president obama and mitt romney. so, let's bring in melanie who is the democratic national committee's press secretary. good morning, melanie. we just showed you the potential clout of latino voters with those numbers, but, as we all know, location, location, location. so, here are the states whe latinos have a major presence. the purple, key battleground states there. the big question, melanie, could the latino voting bloc be the deciding factor in several of these swing states, do you think? >> well, i think they are definitely an important factor in this election cycle and when you look at the issues that latino families care about, health care, education, the economy, the president stands leaps and bounds ahead of mitt romney on those issues. >> let's look at this, you mentioned the economy. the latest orc poll. when asked about economic conditions today, 61% of latino voters said the economy is poor. what do you make of that and how critical is that? >> i think when you look at the president's w
"7.8% number is receipt real. go obama 2012." i'll be reading your tweets later on. @lakeswit. >>> former new jersey governor christie todd whitman. i asked her why mitt romney is viewed as being unable to connect with voters. >> i think part of it is the process that we have in place now with the two parties, the nominating process forces them to the right and to the left. because you're only looking at the base in your party. so you're appealing to a small group of people. and in order to get what has now become the republican base, he's been put in the position of which i don't think he's entirely comfortable. you can change your position. but so many things have changed in a fairly short period of time that i think people aren't quite sure. the far right doesn't think he's conservative enough. the moderates are unsure of where he's going to be as a president. is he going to be the massachusetts governor or is he going to be the person that they heard during the debates? and those are not necessarily the same people for him. >> can anybody effectively govern from anywhere b
the romney numbers . >> obama campaign said in the month of september they raised 181 million dollars. a biggest of either campaign so far this yoor. not as big as he was able to raise in the month of october in 08. no word for the romney campaign. but when i talked to staffers last night and discussed the obama total of over 181 million dollars. they all smiled and grinned and said perhaps we can top that. they haven't said that is the case. for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he i
are staying, it's smoke and mirrors with the number. the obama campaign is manipulating the numbers. on and on. i want to bring in rachel, white house editor for "politico." you've seen all of this. i saw people on, when those numbers came out, on television friday morning, there's no way this is right, what's going on, oh my gosh, the world is going to end! rachel, how do we measure the political impact of the jobs reports on the presidential race? is this the october surprise that we had been waiting for or not a big deal? >> somewhere in between the two. i would not go so far as to call it the october surprise. these numbers are notoriously volatile. one good month can be followed by a bad month and the next month is four days before the presidential election. but this was a very good end to a bad week for the president. really the best possible end that president obama could have hoped for. mitt romney came out so strong in that debate, president obama lackluster. he got called rusty. detached. not the words he was looking for. >> hold that thought, we're going to talk about that. i want t
's number one priority. president obama preparing for tomorrow's debate but in nevada. he has not made any campaign appearances since sunday. romney says he would not deport any undocumented immigrants in the u.s. because of an executive order the president signed. they can stay for two years if they came before they were 16, are still 30 or younger, and meet other criteria. romney criticized the president for signing that executive order during an election year. he also said he would veto a bill that would grant a path to citizenship. >>> strong attacks coming from both sides, but now some residents in roanoke, virginia, say one anti-obama display goes too far. a man named curtis caldwell put up a statue on his front lawn that is a monkey wearing an obama mask. then it says no 'bama and a confederate flag. >> not trying to say obama is an ape or nothing. if i had a kangaroo, i'd put a kangaroo up there. i had a monkey. i bought that long ago in florida. i think we need to get him out of office. that's the primary thing i'm trying to say, get this man out of office. >> caldwell says he use
of anticipation as americans get the chance to draw direct comparisons, mitt romney is trailing barack obama in the polls in a number of key states but the president is under attack for failing to deliver jobs for voters. nowhere is that felt more than reno, nevada where the unemployment rate is the highest in the country. >> in the city nevada, reno is a little less vegas than las vegas it might be little but its voters could have a big impact on the elections. few places in america were worse hit by recession. inform has the highest unemployment rate in the country. barack obama won here comfortably four years ago. this time it will be closer. >> you're going to have a big choice to make, nevada. and it's not just choice between two candidates or two political parties. it's a choice between two different paths for this country. >> this is the other path. mitt romney, the businessman turned politician who is promising to turn the economy around slipped a little in the polls but it's still too close to call. >> these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward t
of the hour. but will the numbers even matter come november? or will the mainstream media just back obama all the way to victory? those questions will be posed to joe trippi, former campaign advisor to howard dean. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. >> all right. we're a few seconds away from the latest read on the economy. it will be a read on the manufacturing sector. it's a number that's going to come my way, a matter of seconds. it's above 50, it implies that manufacturing is expanding and here is the number. 51.5. and that is higher than expected. and anything above 50, any reading above 50, implies that the manufacturing sector is expanding. and 51.5 is the number. check the big board and immediate response. up goes the
as a nation. we have two types of diabetes and if obama is against them, well, america's number one news network is for one of them. (laughter) we'll be right back.=w (cheers and applause) welcome back. as anybody's commute involving even a passing thought of the east side of manhattan knows the u.n. general assembly is in town. i got to confess, i love it. because the u.n. is where you get to see countries go insane. whether it's khrushchev attack inindividualable table gnomes with his fist or qaddafi dressed like tyne daly throwing the charter around or hugo chavez complaining about the room's air quality. >> today the devil came here, right here. >> right here. and it smells of sulfur still today. >> jon: smells of sulfur pretty bold move of then president bush specifically since the charter specifically says that he who smellt it-- (laughter) shall be considered to have dealt it. anyway, given that history, the current state of the world, everyone was expecting some high drama during this week's session. >> and now to that showdown over iran. >> all eyes are on the united nation. >>
numbers. barack obama's ahead in nearly every national poll and battle ground state poll. but what do we really make of the crunchers who say mitt romney has just a 1-5 chance to win this election? hi, i'm chris mathews. welcome to the show. with us today, new york magazine's john, trish and kelly and the huffington post's d howard. with just over a month to go for mitt romney, given the polls, the debates may be it. it could change the narrative that has dogged him or cemented. romney has the same urgent must-do list that he at the republican convention. only now could be his last chance. today we're going to look at romney's career, back at his career, at some missteps in past debates and also at some gems from barack obama. first up, first on romney's must-do list, get likable. and avoid this kind of reaction when governor rick perry charged that romney had hired illegal lawn workers. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here. is that i get 60 seconds. and you get -- >> but the american people want the truth. the
alternative to barack obama. number two, everybody's been saying but obama is more likeable and after all, with he like to like our presidents, and last night who was the more likeable, in all of the snap polls by far it was mitt romney, not barack obama who looked like either he was having root canal or didn't want to be there. >> it was a drag, studying for it and a drag being there. >> ken, don't you think that beyond the aesthetics and cosmetics, there is a fundamental case that romney made when he said that the proof of the failure of the economic policies of the obama administration was in the fact that 50% of graduates cannot get jobs, that one in six americans are living in poverty. >> arianna, i thought all of those statistics were very compelling because they fit into the narrative that he had painted. and the narrative was that we could do better. this is not acceptable what obama has laid out or done in the last four years and there was an optimism to romney which could date nobody has really seen. the third part is something that i refer to as the bedroom test. it's also the
conservatives accuse the obama administration of doctoring the jobs numbers. jack welch wrote, unbelievable job numbers. the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate? they'll change the numbers. >> it's lead yous to hear that statement. >> the secretary of labor denies any political motivation, saying the numbers are real. so while romney launches tv ads promising to do better than president obama. >> i have a detailed floon create 12 million new jobs. >> obama is celebrating this report. >> this country has come to far. >> a bench mark proves america is on the right track. >> economists say the number of new jobs being created is still not enough to significantly lower the unemployment rate. the next jobs report comes out four days before the election. danielle lee. >> 66 degrees at the airport. dining out can be tough on a budget. baltimore magazine has a list of the top 25 places to get a meal for under $40. if pumpkin spice latte your thing during the fall? could be out of luck. details on a possible pumpkin shortage after the break. >>> cold front's coming in. could generate a little ra
electric took to torture and in the airways suggesting the obama campaign cooked the numbers. >> i do not know what the right number is. these numbers do not smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> many experts laptop the charge but the labor secretary was not laughing. >> i am insulted when i hear that. it is ludicrous to hear that kind of statement. >> here is robert portman who plays president obama in debate operations. we will be doing this on saturday before running hold two events in florida. abc news, orlando. >> a sudden standstill in chinatown last night. they're capturing this video. at least 20 demonstrators chanting a disparaging remarks about the obama and romney campaign. >> tonight, there will be another much anticipated public debate. we're not talking about president obama or mitt romney. john stewart of the daily show. the trash talking has gotten under way. some are promising that he will "beat bill o'reilly's liver." >> ready to rubber? >> bill o'reilly will face on this at 8:00 with jon stewart. >> do you see me as mitt romney? is that
numbers, president obama basically out raised mitt romney two to one. in terms of overall numbers. mitt romney raised a lot of numbers. president obama used a lot of his money early on. so the edge has been narrowed. but clearly they need money for the homestretch. this is one of the problems with polls. when polls show you behind, people loosen enthusiasm. people, particularly businessmen, and a lot of businessmen are supporting mitt romney, they say why am i putting our money in a campaign which is losing? better off to divert it to other races which are where we have a chance to keep the house, maybe take the senate or add seats to the senate. that is what they're doing right now. it is a nascent trend. i talked to some people at center for responsive politics. i said listen can you see it in the numbers? they said no can't see in the current numb bothers which are good up to september 21. the next reporting deadline is october 20. you might be able to see it there. clearly inside the romney campaign. this is happening. it is concerning. they know because of these poll numbers and th
strongly for obama boem. recent numbers show latinos still favor the president, but they want to hear more about the issues that are most important to them. they don't want their vote taken for granted. miguel marquez has more. >> reporter: out of the shadows wanting their voices heard, their concerns on the agenda. >> tell me why you're here tonight. >> we're here asking both of the candidates to look at immigration in a more humane sense because none of them are doing so. >> latino students hope to hear something that spoke to them. they never got it. >> they have too many issues that i'm passionate about. i'm still waiting to hear. >> what are you passionate about? >> i would definitely say immigration, education. >> with the president who won 61% of colorado's latino votes in 2008, that same energy for many latinos just isn't there. >> four years ago barack obama, i had his back. he very much spoke to me, but now i'm hearing the same rhetoric that i heard four years ago. >> still, there are 400,000 latino votes in play across the state. both sides courting them heavily. >> mr. presiden
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